Nathan Natas

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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

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  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  Nathan Natas

  Azor, YOU may be willing to break the law on the excuse that doing so provides a better life for your children, but don't presume that I would.

  It is almost funny the way you avoid using the correct term: we're talking about "illegal aliens," not immigrants. The LEGAL processes for becoming a US Citizen remain in place. Wetbacks who cross the border under cover of darkness or other subterfuge are CRIMINALS, just as they would be if they were US citizens going south into Mexico without complying with Mexico's laws.

  Your "apples and oranges" are wormy in fact and as an analogy.

  Immigrants are people who follow the laws pertaining to immigration.
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  Scientology Superbowl Ad

  by azor in

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  simply disgusted with that double standard by our system at times.

  cutting ads that question trumps bigoted wall, yet allowing a cult ad in.

  wtf..

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  Nathan Natas

  Super Bowl LI Scientology ad
  
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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

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  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  Nathan Natas

  Spoletta said, " if I thought there was a way to give my children a better life, or protect their lives by going somewhere else, I wouldn't worry too much about the legality of it."

  Would you feel as generous if a criminal was robbing YOU to "give his children a better life," or does that apply only when SOMEONE ELSE is being robbed?

  You are morally bankrupt.
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  Scientology Superbowl Ad

  by azor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  simply disgusted with that double standard by our system at times.

  cutting ads that question trumps bigoted wall, yet allowing a cult ad in.

  wtf..

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  Nathan Natas

  Azor, you are inaccurate. I said, "I'm a bigot if I don't support criminals? OK, put me down as bigot."

  So apparently YOU feel that it is BIGOTED to not support criminals. With your admitted family history, I can see why you might feel that way.

  I'm glad your grandmother's son fought to help the Allies win WWII and defeat nazism. Spain and many South American countries were either collaborators with the Nazis or looked the other way when the Nazis sought refuge in those countries after WWII. Were many of your family Nazis?
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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  Nathan Natas

  Azor pointed out, " In fact the infrastructure needed to build the wall will just give illegals an easier path into the country."

  Then why would you not fully support it? Are you a bigot?
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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  Nathan Natas

  Simon mentioned "Disney VERSIONS of reality."

  I thought it might be HELPFUL to remind ourselves of the REALITY of admission to, and length of visitation in DISNEYLAND:

  Disneyland Tickets

  These tickets are good for entrance to one park per day - either Disneyland Park or Disney California Adventure. The price of a 1 Day ticket varies depending on when you'll be visiting: Regular period, Value period or Peak period.
  

  Ages 3-9

  1 Day 1-Park Ticket - Value $89

  1 Day 1-Park Ticket - Regular $99

  Ages 10+

  1 Day 1-Park Ticket - Value $95

  1 Day 1-Park Ticket - Regular $105
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  Scientology Superbowl Ad

  by azor in

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  2. friends

  simply disgusted with that double standard by our system at times.

  cutting ads that question trumps bigoted wall, yet allowing a cult ad in.

  wtf..

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  Nathan Natas

  Azor, does MEXICO have laws governing immigration into MEXICO?

  Yes it does. Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says, “A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.”

  WHY is it OK for MEXICO to have immigration laws but BIGOTED for the US to insist on the same sovereignty?

  Call me names if it helps your argument.
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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

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  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  Nathan Natas

  Azor, my ancestors came to this country in full compliance with the immigration laws that applied at the time of their arrival, and they came because they were in full agreement with the principles of the US Constitution and the other laws of the United States of America.

  You are no doubt familiar with the saying "mi casa es su casa." is that EVER meant literally? If I break into your home, does that make me a member of your family?

  You may be unaware of the purpose of the organization called "la Raza" and the goals of the Reconquista Movement, but I am.

  It speaks volumes that you find an informed opponent "truly disgusting." Surely you would prefer that EVERYONE was on a mental siesta, aided by some of your illegal Mexican herbal imports.
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  Scientology Superbowl Ad

  by azor in

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  2. friends

  simply disgusted with that double standard by our system at times.

  cutting ads that question trumps bigoted wall, yet allowing a cult ad in.

  wtf..

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  Nathan Natas

  I'm a bigot if I don't support criminals? OK, put me down as bigot.
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  I am giving everyone on the board...

  by The Rebel in

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  a new commadment to the posting guidelines.

  we must love one another.. if i read the posting guidelines and saw the lurking presence of that new commadment " we must love one another" i would feel very uneasy about registering.

  it sounds more like a threat than an expression of love.

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  Nathan Natas

  The Rebel said, " I think if the posting guidelines COMMANDMED [sic] us to love each other it would be a little optimistic, arrogant and presumptuous."

  ...but not if you do it?

  OK, just wanted to get clear on that.